Thursday, October 19, 2017

We Shouldn't Feel Guilty over Quebec's Burqa Ban

If there is one aspect of Bill 62 that I dislike, it is the absurd hypocrisy in not calling a spade a spade. The law is indeed a ban on the Burqa and niqab and nothing more, with the language used, a ban on 'face coverings,' a sad device meant to deflect charges of religious intolerance and an effort to create a more defensible legal position.

Those outraged by the ban are lining up with howls of religious intolerance and mounted feminist outrage at the egregious attack on religious freedom. It is to be expected by the alt.liberals who believe that personal freedom always trumps society's collective rights.

Those who say that the ban is an attack on religious freedom are probably right, though it isn't clear if the niqab and the burka are religious accoutrements as they aren't directly made mention in the Koran and aren't obligatory for Muslim women, according to Muslim scholars. There is mention in the Koran of women dressing modestly to please Allah, so I guess the argument can be made one way or the other.

But no matter....
A religious requirement or just a social more, the niqab and burqa are de rigueur in shithole misogynist countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran, to name a few, where women are treated like chattel and rules for 'modest dress' an overt signal that women are second-class citizens.

As for the religious freedom argument, let us remember that those freedoms, like free speech, are not absolute and unbounded.
You cannot scream "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre without good cause and you cannot make overt unbridled physical threats of any kind. Free speech is constrained by what we consider good sense, as it should be.

The same goes for religion, where the freedom to marry off underage children is barred as well as female circumcision and a variety of mostly misogynistic practices that are unacceptable and illegal in our society.
So let us be clear. In the name of religious freedom, you cannot do whatever you please.

We as a society can and should interfere in religious practices that are deemed unsafe, exploitive, demeaning and offensive.
Because of the fear of offending those who hide their unacceptable religious practices under the cloak of religious freedom and their apologists, we as a society have failed to take action when we should have.

As for religious excess, the fundamentalist Muslims of Quebec don't hold a candle to the ultra-orthodox Jews who make a mockery of our society by engaging in a set of practices that should long ago have been banned. Children are subjected to an ultra-religious 19th-century education that doesn't allow for the time to study government mandated courses, crippling their ability to leave the community as adults and pursue a different life. These religious schools are an affront and represent child abuse as we know it. While coming under prodding by the Quebec education department, the community has grudgingly made some effort, but it is at best lip service.
The outrageous saga of the Lev Tahor cult is another example of authorities fearing to ruffle the feathers of religious nuts because of the fear of being labelled racist.
"It took youth protection officials far too long to intervene in the case of 134 children who were part of the Lev Tahor community living for a decade in Ste-Agathe-des-Monts, a report from the Quebec human-rights commission concluded.
In November 2013, about 250 members of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish sect fled the Laurentians town to avoid a hearing in youth court. The group was facing allegations of child abuse and neglect from Quebec’s youth-protection department — such as corporal punishment in school, underage marriage, sexual abuse of minors and squalid living conditions". Mtl Gazette

Nobody can compare the wearing of the burqa and the niqab as the egregious behaviour as the above, but as a society, we have the right to limit symbols that rightly insult and belittle women, regardless of whether the wearer believes it does or does not.
Religious face coverings tell us that men are not worthy of seeing the face of the wearer and that women are offended by being seen by men other than their 'owners,' be it a father or husband.

What university would allow a student the right to come to class wearing a white supremacist or Nazi T-shirt? What business would allow an employee the free speech to wear an antisemitic outfit while serving customers?
Burqas and niqabs aren't benign symbols of faith, they are symbols of female oppression regardless of whether the wearer believes it an instrument of modesty.
It amazes me how liberals and feminists are all for free speech and expression, as long as it doesn't offend their liberal values.
Try going to school with an anti-vaccine t-shirt or a 'Black Lives Don't Matter' pin and see how fast liberals mobilize to remove the offending messages under the guise that the symbolism make them feel unsafe.
Liberals will argue that the head coverings are innocent devices of modesty, a clever ploy which is meant to deflect criticism. I wonder if a woman wearing a T-shirt that says "Property of my Husband" would be given the same consideration if she argued that it is just a symbol of her devotion to her family.

The real underlying message of the niqab and burqa is subjugation and misogyny and for this reason, many other countries, including Muslim-majority countries are now taking a stand.

Let liberals blather on about freedom of choice and religion, they are bullshitters extraordinaire.  They are the first to propose bans on symbols and indeed speech that they find offensive.

Quebec has said that the religious head coverings are a religious practice that its society finds collectively offensive because of its overt message of misogyny.
Don't feel bad about the face-covering ban, feel empowered that we are indeed taking a stand to limit religious oppression of women.

7 comments:

  1. Everything I've been trying to articulate. Invited to a meeting of bleeding heart Unitarians to state my agreement with this. Sharing

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  2. Despite being an atheist, and frowning upon the fundamentalism behind the Burqa and Niqab, I strongly oppose Quebec's so-called Bill 62. Much like other laws coming out of Quebec, it purports itself as "protection", but this is a false guise with its true purpose being to undermine basic human freedoms and rights.

    Here's my concern. All the average Quebec citizen sees is a legal legitimization of the PQ's failed Charter of Values. Remember that, or its campaign poster? The old western style wanted-dead-or-alive poster, with pictorials of different ethnicities (wearing kippah, turban, head scarfs, etc) that were VERBOTEN in Quebec society? Oh, but it wasn't about the head covering of course, it was clearly seen as groups of PEOPLE living in Quebec who get an "X". The Charter of Values told an already xenophobic and racist society, Jews, Muslims, Indians, Sikhs and other non-purelain Quebecois, they are not welcome in Quebec society. Now we have the Quebec Liberals (aka the "PQ Lite") dusting off and resurrecting this ill thought piece of legislation and making it official law. What, may I ask, do you think the public will do with it? Especially in this particular period in time, where Trump has stirred up and legitimized racism, hate and supremacists, bringing all that vile to the surface. What do you think groups like La Meute will make of Bill 62? Passing hate-laws like these are dangerous. When you pit one group against another, you are planted the seeds for intolerance and violence.

    And remember, this proves what I said years back. That the Quebec Liberals are essentially no better than the Parti Quebecois, always pushing lighter versions of the PQ's discriminatory laws and legislations. Ditto for the CAQ and QS. The sad thing is we have just one party in Quebec, only it comes in different flavors: PQ Classic, PQ Lite, PQ Extreme, etc. All pushing the same mantra, Quebec belongs to French, white, Catholics, and everyone else is an outsider whom must not be tolerated.

    What it comes down to is this law is not about banning facing coverings, it's about singling out ONE SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE. Plus due to the vagueness of the law, it is telling the public, if you see one of these offending groups, go ahead and take matters into your own hands. Doesn't take much for those same people to extend this "law" to singling out any and all ethnicities in the province; though no worries, once the PQ or CAQ come into power next year, they'll see to that. Mark my words.

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      Mr. Sauga here: Hi there, Apple! It's been a long time. Good to hear from you. This whole thing puts me on a razor-sharp picket fence because both you and Phil are right, at least in how I see it all. It's really a double-edged sword.

      On the one hand, I do see it for what French Quebec is, at least outside the urban areas. It's a collective of ignorant, xenophobic country bumpkins. This law comes right out of the annals of ignorance expressed in Hérouxville a few years ago. A number of businesses in the Quebec City area voted against a Muslim cemetery in their area. What harm can a cemetery do? It's a quiet place of buried bodies where a stone monument marks that there once lived individuals. What ignorance.

      On the flip side, I do agree with a lot of what Phil was conveying in his message. It's the old platitude "When in Rome...". I assume you know how to finish the sentence. I do see the Niqab as an oppressive symbol in most cases, and sadly if you go to the National Post website, a 33-year-old woman describes what she has faced over time, including once having a beer bottle thrown at her. That, of course, is hateful ignorance which is unacceptable. On the other hand, since non-Muslim women are forced to wear the hijab in many predominantly Islamic countries, then what's good for the goose should be good for the gander, as it were, i.e., when in Rome...

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      Now for the other edge of the sword. What Phil writes about ultra-orthodox Judaism isn't wrong. I for one know a gentleman who managed to get a teaching assignment at a Yeshiva in the Toronto area. I consider this man to be a fairly pious Jew insofar as he knows orthodox religious rituals very well in the synagogue, but I'd consider him as at least partially secular as he, like me, does not strictly observe the dietary strictures and other aspects of the more religious Judaism.

      Pretty recently, he and I spoke and I learned from him that at this ultra-orthodox Yeshiva parochial school, scriptures carry more importance than the "3Rs" of fundamental education, i.e., pass marks in English and math, among other conventional subjects, are not important. In his math class, when he asked what you get when you cut a pizza into four equal pieces, they didn't even know the answer is quarters. Instead, there was wise crackery like "what's on the pizza?" Of course, boys will be boys and there is no shortage of problematic smart aleks in most schools, but to put fundamental and compulsory subjects in a provincial school curriculum makes for narrow minds. Too, many of these ultra-orthodox communities tend to be closed, and that's not right either. It leads to ignorance and hate due to misunderstanding, but at the same time, in a democratic to live and let live as long as they don't disrupt public order, and such closed communities don't. I'm not legitimizing ignorance and hate, but with small minded it sadly comes with the territory.

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    3. Short addendum: Whoops. I meant to write "...to put fundamental and compulsory subjects in a provincial school curriculum BEHIND SCRIPTURAL STUDIES makes for narrow minds."

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  3. What I am waiting for is the court challenge on the basis of both the Quebec and Canadian charters of rights, the almost certain loss by Quebec, and then whether Quebec invokes the notwithstanding clauses of both charters to override the court's decision. Unfortunately, we'll probably have to wait at least five years for this bit of drama to unfold.

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