Friday, October 27, 2017

Quebec's Most Shameful Month Ever

Humiliating revelations for Montreal police chief Philippe Pichet
October has not been kind to Quebec, with the province on a wild roller coaster ride, lurching from one crisis and humiliating revelation to another.

It's had to keep up with the players and events without a program and for most of us, the accusations of malfeasance, corruption, sexual assaults and all manner of criminality related to the police, politicians and show business personalities is perhaps too much to absorb, given the number of revelations landing one on top of another.

Yesterday the Sûreté du Québec, the provincial police, raided the headquarters of the Montreal police in a stunning, unprecedented and humiliating occurrence. At first, it was thought that it was in relation to an ongoing investigation of the Internal Affairs department, which has more or less been disbanded after an investigation was launched over allegations that the department manufactured evidence to drum out at least four department whistle blowers.
Costas Labos, suspended head of Internal Affairs
Those revelations led to the suspension of Costa Labos, the former head of the internal affairs department who is alleged to have run the department not to weed out crooked cops, but rather to protect them.  Labos had previously been accused of lying to a judge but kept his job anyways. Internal affairs files of the Montreal police are now being handled by the Sûreté du Québec, which means that the department is in fact under defacto trusteeship. Link
At any rate, this raid had nothing to do with that investigation and was conducted in relation to new allegations that the right-hand man of police chief Philippe Pichet is alleged to have illegally taken sums of overtime salary and bonus' that he was not eligible for. The allegations were made by senior whistle blowers within the Montreal police disgusted with the goings-on. Link

And talking about whistle-blowers, the raid happened one day after Guy Ouellette the Liberal Member of the National Assembly for Chomedey was arrested for allegedly leaking information about an investigation by UPAC, the special agency created to combat Quebec corruption. The leaked information was embarrassing to ex-Quebec Premier Jean Charest and chief Liberal party fundraiser and multi-millionaire Marc Bibeau which revealed that they were both actually tailed by UPAC investigators for a time in 2016. Bibeau is alleged to have demanded money on behalf of the party from businesses in a cash-for-access scheme as well as allegedly using his influence to get government agencies to rent offices in his real estate holdings.
The leak infuriated UPAC boss Robert Lafrenière, and he spent enormous UPAC resources tracking down what he termed "the bandit" who leaked the information.

Now this story is complicated, so bear with me.
The arrested MNA, Guy Ouellette and UPAC boss Robert Lafrenière are not friends and in fact, sworn enemies, to say the least. Ouellet has militated for Lafrenière's ouster. Ouellet is an ex-cop himself who has accused UPAC of dragging its feet in pursuing Bibeau and Charest. Apparently, other investigators in UPAC agreed and leaked damaging information, allegedly through Ouellet, in order to spur UPAC to hurry up its investigation.
The arrest of Ouellette comes after UPAC raided the home of one of its ex-investigators alleged to be the leaker. During the raid, the cell phone of the target of the raid, Richard Despatie, was confiscated and searched, revealing the MNA's phone number. In a cloak and dagger operation, UPAC then texted the MNA on Despatie's phone and told him to meet Despatie (which was a ruse) at a restaurant to receive more leaked info. When Ouellet showed up he was greeted by UPAC detectives and arrested.
Now the arrest is highly dubious, because of the way the MNA was entrapped. The police certainly had a right to search Despatie's phone for evidence in relation to the search, but probably didn't have the legal right to use Depatie's phone as an investigative weapon.
Perhaps for this reason, the MNA's name was never publicized by UPAC, who released the MNA without charges. On the surface, there is no legal case to be made, short of a confession, but the damage to the MNA's reputation is devastating even though it really isn't clear who is the bad guy in all this.
Is Lafrenière settling a political score with his political enemy?
What were the motives of the MNA's leak, which actually hurt his own Liberal party? Dunno????
At any rate, whistle-blowers are usually revered, but in this case dragged through the mud and treated like a lowly criminal. I want to stress that Guy Ouellette has a stellar reputation and even opposition MNAs are rallying to his defence. It is all very strange.

And before we leave the Montreal police, we recently learned that the always racist Montreal police issued a ticket to a man for singing in his car.
On Sept. 27, Taoufik Moalla (a visible ethnic) was on his way to buy a bottle of water, happily singing along to C+C Music Factory’s 1990 song “Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now)” when he says he heard a police siren blaring behind him.
“I was thinking they wanted to pass, but they called on the speaker, ‘Please go to the right side,’” Moalla told CTV Montreal. “I stopped and four police came, two on each side, and checked the inside of the car. Then they asked me if I screamed. I said, ‘No, I was just singing.’”

Now on to the sex scandals that are rocking Quebec to its foundations. 
After the Weinstein affair, the floodgates have opened with women across North America emboldened to out their sexual assaulters.
Several high profile Quebecers have seen revelations destroy their professional and I daresay their personal lives.
Rozon & Salvail.. Birds of a Feather
First was Gilbert Rozon, the head of the Just for Laughs organization, outed as an alleged sexual predator by several high profile accusers including Julie Snyder (big time TV personality/producer,)  who is by the way, the ex-wife of Pierre-Karl Péladeau. A similar complaint was lodged by another TV show host, Penelope McQuaid. Link
Rozon was quite the big shot in Quebec media circles but following the accusations, he was quickly fed to the sharks with other media organizations announcing that he was being blacklisted, leading him to resign his position and him putting his shares up for sale.
Then another bombshell landed on another powerful Quebec TV personality who  was also revealed to have allegedly sexually-targeted women. 
If Rozon is the Weinstein of comedy, assuming the allegations are true, Salvail could be called Quebec's Jian Ghomeshi – except that Salvail had a much bigger presence in his broadcast market, on both TV and radio. He had also parlayed his personal brand into a company that had 11 original programs in its production stable. Like Rozon, Salvail has greatly benefited from Quebec's robust star system, which can make household names of entertainment figures unknown outside the province. Salvail's shows, like several competing talk programs, were also engines of that home-grown star system, which has no equivalent in the rest of Canada. After reports were published last week of 11 mostly anonymous complaints against him, Salvail vanished from the airwaves and announced he was taking "a pause" from his public career. Link
But the hits just kept coming as yet another Quebec personality is accused of sexual impropriety. This week a young Quebec author/journalist revealed that when she was just seventeen years old and working for her idol, she was sexually assaulted by her boss.
Léa Clermont-Dion accused Michel Venne of sexual misconduct when she was working for him one summer at the Institut du Nouveau Monde, a lefty type think tank. In a lengthy and thoroughly coherent piece on her Facebook page, Clermont-Dion accused the Quebec media star of shattering her illusions by sexually assaulting her.
She didn't report the assault but told friends about it and quickly rumours spread, outing the perpetrator.
Lise Payette..Pedo and Sex Abuser enabler
Then Lise Payette, a friend of Venne got in touch with Clermont-Dion and met her in an effort to get her to recant her story and the marathon two-hour meeting culminated with Payette applying pressure for her to sign a letter disavowing the incident, because as Payette described, it was hurting Venne and his family and was threatening his chances at becoming an editor at Le Devoir.
Clermont-Dion tells how her illusions about another one of her idols was shattered by the bullying of Payette.
You might recall Payette as the PQ feminist minister who accused Quebec women of being "Yvettes"  a reference for docile and obedient housewives who would meekly vote NO in the upcoming referendum. That ploy backfired rather badly as opponents proudly donned the label of 'Yvette'.
At any rate, Payette defended her actions in the affair by telling the media that she was acting in Clermont-Dion's best interests as any accusation against the powerful Venne would, according to Payette, result in a painful backlash against the accuser. ....Yah sure.
Payette's nose stretcher excuse didn't fly and she has been thoroughly roasted for her seemingly betrayal of victims of sexual assault. She was denounced in the Journal du Montreal as a "fake feminist' by Sophie Durocher who reminded readers that Payette had previously defended Claude Jutra, the famous film-maker and homosexual pedophile in a bizarre article entitled "Claude Jutra était mon ami" ('Claude Jutra was my friend') where she stated that she doubted the word of the victims.
Payette is 85 years old and there is a certain satisfaction in knowing  that she will go to her grave disgraced.

And let's not forget Michel Brulé renowned anglo hater who wrote a book with the theme that English was an ugly language who is also accused by several ex-employees of being a filthy sexual assaulter. Brulé has withdrawn his candidacy from the race for Plateau-Mont-Royal borough mayor even while denying it all.

Accurso looking glum
On the criminal front, the trial of the former construction czar Tony Accurso finally got underway in Laval, with turncoat witnesses lining up to testify about the entrenched system of corruption in the awarding of construction contracts. The testimony by the admitted co-conspirators, both politicians, players in the construction industry and within the corrupt engineering firms is still a little hard to take
According to the Crown, Vaillancourt would decide which engineering firm would get a contract, then rig the bids accordingly before the call for tenders was issued. In exchange, Accurso and others would pay Vaillancourt a percentage in cash handed over in brown. envelopes. Link
In another legal story that has me questioning whether it is really 2017 in Quebec. A judge humiliated a girl with comments out of the 1950's. It was during a case where a taxi driver was accused of a sexual assault;
"She's a young girl, 17. Maybe she's a little overweight but she has a pretty face, no?" the judge said in recordings first unearthed by the Journal de Montréal.
Speaking French, the judge went on to describe the young woman as a "fleur bleue" (sentimental or romantic.) "She was a bit flattered," the judge continued. "Maybe it was the first time he showed interest in her." Link
And let us not forget the disastrous start to the season by the Montreal Canadiens who appear to be on course for the worst season in Habs history, sporting a 2-7-1 won/lost/overtime win record, being outscored 38-10 in the process.
In a whistling in the dark eulogy, Marc Bergevin warned the players that there'd be no help from management vis-a-vis trades and that they'd have to suck it up.
Bergevin had been the incompetent author of the off-season loss of veteran blue-liner Andre Markov and the popular Alexander Radulov.
I don't think I'm alone in believing that the Bergevin death-watch is on, the only thing missing is a qualified francophone to replace him. It probably won't make a difference. Iacta ālea est.

In the business world, another disaster as Bombardier moved to save the furniture by handing over the C-Series project to Airbus for free. The company rightly concluded that a reduced ownership share of something successful is better than 100% ownership of a money-losing venture. The big loser in all this are the taxpayers who have collectively shelled out hundreds of millions in subsidies which Airbus will not reimburse.
And Ericsson, the telecom giant is closing its giant facility in Vaudreuil-Dorion less than a year after it opened. The company benefitted from a $30 million gift from the PQ when it pitched the facility to Quebec.

This month saw Quebec pass its controversial anti niqab and burqa law much to the consternation of Liberal politicians across Canada. Underlying the issue is the very real reality of coercion of Muslim women into wearing either a veil or scarf.
“A Quebec man has been charged with allegedly assaulting his teenage daughter over a year in what police are calling "honour-based" violence.  Gatineau police say the level of violence escalated once the man discovered the girl was removing her hijab when she was away from the family home. She decided to file a police complaint, which culminated in an arrest Wednesday.” Link
 
More.... 
Quebec fur company fined $22,500 for trafficking in polar bear skins

Quebec radiologists billing $3M annually for obsolete task 
 
71 puppies up for adoption after rescue from suspected Quebec puppy mill

And so, it's been quite an eventful month indeed and we've still got a few days to go!

Permit me readers to finish on a positive note.

With a grandson on the autism spectrum, I personally know too well how traumatic haircuts are.
Let me salute this Val D'Or barber who went the extra mile to make a difficult procedure  better.


 “A Quebec barber who got down on the floor to trim the hair of a young client with autism was applauded in Canada’s Senate chamber Wednesday, several weeks after a photo of him garnered worldwide attention.
Francis “Franz” Jacob was invited to Ottawa by Sen. Marie-Francoise Megie for the Senate’s autism awareness day.” Link
Have a great weekend!

27 comments:

  1. Bergevin's motto is probably, "What, me worry?" He loves his suits, he loves his tan, and he's got Geoff Molson in his corner. Anyone with a cursory familiarity with Molson's track record knows there's going to be five more chumps to replace anyone who doesn't show up to the game. Makes you wonder exactly how many of those Centre Bell seats are actually filled by locals.

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  2. Mr. Sauga here: Thank you Philip for the best laugh I've had in a while even though most of it his old hat. You've reminded my why leaving Quebec was the smartest move I ever made. I guess the Loser State just culminated into a cauldron of flim flammery and numptiness that is more conspicuous than ever. The 33rd anniversary of my emancipation from this Loser State is on November 4th, and I must celebrate it heartily with my special lady whom I rescued from that Loser State going on nine years ago.

    I'd just love to see the seppies try to do what is happening in Spain with the Catalonians or whatever they're called. I'm not interested in researching it. I don't think Canada should fight Quebec separation, when and if it happens, but Quebec should be forced to forfeit Rupertsland and any means to cut off the Atlantic Provinces from Ontario and the Western Provinces, and of course take its share of the public federal debt which should be for a lot since Quebec has been the biggest beneficiary of federal largesse.

    Bombardier would be the most interesting company in the post-Quebec world. It would either have to collapse under the burden of Quebec incompetence or get what's left of it the hell out of Quebec. It seems too that nobody in Quebec has the foggiest notion that the Toronto Transportation Commission ordered dozens upon dozens of modernized streetcars, yet most of them have still not been delivered. They are regularly behind production schedule, and I think they should be sued through the nose because the TTC is paying millions of extra dollars in repairs to keep antiquated and superannuated streetcars on the road, and this is due to the ongoing and endless delays as Bombardier is slower than molasses in production.

    Quebec: The loser state!

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    1. Seeing as how Couillard is angling for an executive position at Bombardier (the apple of his eye, of course), don't count on it.

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  3. Mr.Sauga..

    I wouldn't be so smug just yet. Not sure Ontario is a beacon of economic strength..its debt will be higher per capita any day now. Its economy is fueled by a crazy housing bubble in Toronto thats about to burst. Last time I checked the unemployment rate in Montreal was lower than Toronto. We shall see in a few years how great things are in Ontario.
    Having said that I am under no illusions that Quebec will find a way to screw up its recent prosperity..maybe the PQ will somehow win the next election or the some sort of QS/PQ merger. But if either the CAQ or the Liberals win the next election I would bet that Quebec will continue to outperform Ontario for the next 5 years.
    But one has to admit that right now things are going very well in Montreal..lots of buildings going up..new highways..new bridges..house prices are up..unemployment is the lowest in 40 years..so lets at least enjoy it while it lasts.

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    1. Mr. Sauga here: Thank you for your response, c. Your last three words, "While it lasts" are the operative words. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see Montreal fail. I was born, raised and educated there. I'm most unhappy I felt compelled to leave, but it was unequivocally clear the Quebec governments, be they so-called federalist or blatantly separatist, forced the hand of the ecomomy to benefit "ethnic" Québécois and "ethnic" Québécois only.

      The argument of "simply strengthening "ethnic" Québécois" and not harming minorities never did, doesn't now and never will hold water with me. I read the message loud and clear: Conform or get outta here! I made my choice for good 33 years ago this week. My partner moved in with 8 years ago after first having an 11-year long distance relationship, and she's very glad she did. Her two children are much, much happier in Ontario as well.

      Too bad the Habs have become a big, fat failure, and I don't see them improving much at all with the front office in place right now. Geoff Molson paid a half billion dollars for the team, almost double what George Gillett paid less than a decade earlier. If this goes on much longer, Molson may suffer a loss on his investment. I know people who have subscribed to the hockey channel who this year are not, and others are just abandoning the team for better quality hockey elsewhere. In 109 year, the only Francophone GM worth his salt was Serge Savard. Two Cups were won under his tutelage until that idiot Ron Corey fired a GM and coach with a track record only to put in three men who played on a great hockey team but with zero, ZERO front office experience, and the rest is history.

      How is the rest of Quebec doing? I've read previously in this blog Asians were coming to Sept Iles to flip burgers and fries at McDonald's because nobody locally would take the jobs. I guess they'd rather sit on their asses and collect welfare! Quebec is one screw-up after another, so enjoy the good times while they last, because mark my words, they won't!

      Electrolux left Quebec because of onerous labour and language laws. Happily, they're going to Eastern Ontario instead, or even New Brunswick. How long did Hyundai stay in Bromont? Again, enjoy the good times while they last.

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    2. It just seems that you come on here to vent all the time because of what happened to you many many years ago. Just looking through your posts..its all about bashing Quebec -even bashing the hockey team. I could care less about the Habs or the Maple Leafs.

      You mention Electolux..how many factories have closed in Ontario over the past 10 years..many. How about that Heinz factory that was in Ontario for 100 years..Kraft..some auto plants..and on and on. This is a global problem..companies moving to cheaper destinations like china or mexico and even parts of the usa where labour is much cheaper. Ontario costs are sky high especially around Toronto..not sure why any company would want to set up shop in such an obvious property bubble.

      I get what you are saying..there is no doubt that there is a sort of racism against anyone who is not the pur laine. I see it in government all the time..people who have cushy jobs because they are quebecois..meanwhile hardly any anglos or other groups are represented by their numbers. That definitely irks me..and I will be honest..I hope one day to also leave this province and go somewhere where I dont feel like a second class citizen in my own country. But for now I have to put up with this place and for once in a long long time things have been pretty good here..unemployment is low..buildings are going up..infrastructure is 2-3 years from being significantly improved..taxes are slowly dropping..three years of surpluses in a row. But I suspect Quebec will find a a way to screw this prosperity up as it always does by resorting back to the seperatist parties..I hope not..

      But Ontario to me is highly over rated..I would be scared for their future..sky high debt..a ridiculous property bubble..an anti-business government..too much reliance on manudacturing which is dying in north america as everything moves to lower cost jurisdictions..sky high electricity prices due to mismanagement. So enjoy the good times while they last..I dont think they will last much longer in Ontario especially Toronto.

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      Mr Sauga responding: Hi c. It's my right to vent all I want. It's a free country outside Quebec. Maybe you don't care about the Habs, but I had the privilege of growing up with the best team in NHL history. Even though they have gone through what is now by far the longest drought in team history, they still have a greater history than any of the other 30 teams in the League, and it will be eons before any other team possibly catches up. Your grandchildren's great grandchildren won't see any other team catch up to the Habs.

      What really saddens me more about that is it currently represents the jurisdiction Quebec has become--a loser state! I imagine you're one of "them", i.e., a rabid, bitter, ignorant and xenophobic Québécois de vieuille souche, or Old Stock Québécois. If not, you're certainly the devil's advocate.

      Many of us minorities have left. I have met and many Francophones from other countries in Africa, the Caribbean, Arabic states and South America. NONE of them were interested in staying in Quebec, some totally bypassed your loser state, and I have heard many of their calls with Québécois customers who have dared ridicule their French. I too have dealt with Joual clients over the phone here in Ontario. In all fairness, many have been accommodating of my obvious Anglophone accent, but there are others who have given me a hard time. They've thrown in their "là, là" ending their sentences, and words like "booker" (sounds like bouquet, except they're talking about booking a holiday or the like), and "upgrader". If I dared used words like that in French class in my high school years, I'd hear it loud and long from my teachers. Many e-mails I've gotten don't have accents where they should be. In my French class, you were marked wrong for the whole response to a question for that minor error. There I am, an Anglophone out of your loser state 33 years (this Saturday), and I catch THEIR spelling errors. Seems the Charter of the French Language hasn't improved the state of French in Quebec at all!

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    4. 2 of 2: Mr. Sauga concludes:

      Oh, almost forgot. That Heinz vacuum in Leamington, ON has been filled by French's. My suggestion is therefore buy French's ketchup and let Heinz mange la merde in Pittsburgh and die. Too, you're right about lots of industry leaving Ontario, but then again, head offices are moving here. Burger King moved from the U.S. into Oakville along with Tim Horton's Donuts as BK owns TH's. Why? Tax advantages in Ontario. Once Trump the cuckoo bird and Wynn the dike are out, I'm confident things will normalize, i.e., Ontario will continue to prosper and Quebec may improve too, but nowhere nearly as fast as Ontario. Quebec has menacing language laws and too many menacing labor laws, too.

      Despite Quebec being in better position than it has in decades I think is more an aberration than the norm. A government that is xenophobic as all Quebec governments now are is proof Quebec is a loser state. I can't help that despotic politicians and an even more despotic church wrecked life for the majority, while the minorities intelligently and rightfully built the Quebec Francophones could be proud of. Even today, the 20% minority population is responsible for 40% of the tax base, even 40 years after that fascist language legislation was passed and hundreds of thousands of my minority cohorts left Quebec. F--k the late fatass premier who blamed his referendum loss 22 years and three days ago on «l'argent et la vote éthnique...essentielement!» Translation: It's the fault of the Jews, Italians and Greeks...essentially (and in that order)! He so admitted about seven weeks after his Waterloo at a political junket in Calgary.

      c, you wrote jobs are leaving Ontario for China and Mexico. That means jobs are leaving Quebec for those locales as well, or never considered coming to Quebec (Hyundai and others) so what are you trying to prove? If the PQ or its clones get in, the exodus will inevitably start again, and property values will stall or decrease. Too, Quebec is benefitting from the same low mortgage rates as the rest, but once that dissipates, look out! Another former Premier, John James "Goldilocks" Charest, was the premier who shut down any and all loopholes and encouraged the practice of not leaving messages in English until after the French messages were stated, if there were anymore English messages to follow, and certain departments who used to send English literature to those who so requested became denied. I've said it since I was a teen in the 70s, and I say it now and forevermore, QUEBEC IS A LOSER STATE! It's anti-Semitic, it's anti-Islamic and it's anti-everything-that-isn't-of-their-ilk. Deal with it!

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    5. You really sound like a bitter old man who just cant let go of the past. You are in Ontario now and should be happy but you still come on here and whine and whine and whine. That tells me you have a big axe to grind..move on. Most of your comments are clearly meant to inflame and have no real point.
      Again..the hockey team..I personally think all professional sports are a waste of time and money..but if you want to go there..the Canadians have been way more succesful that the Maple Leafs over the past 20 years for whatever it really means. When every second sentence has the words loser state in front then its hard to take you seriously..I mean we arent in grade 5 here.
      Stop living in the past..whats done is done..there were bad things done on both sides..I blame the anglos int he past just as much as the pur laine for the problems Quebec has had.

      The debt in Ontario has been increasing much faster than it has in Quebec the past few years even with a property bubble and a decent economy..its going to skyrocket when the bubble pops which will happen within 2 years. At least pricesi n Quebec are still somewhat reasonable hence why many foreigners are starting to invest in Montreal.

      So many factories have closed in Ontario the past 10 years its crazy..good luck competing with the USA now under Trump for factories..lower wages in the states and the likely demise of NAFTA..and the usual flow of manufacturing to China and Mexico.

      You sound more and more juvenile with each post..seriously..ranting like a raving lunatic 33 years after you left.

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    6. https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/high-electrical-costs-have-driven-thousands-of-manufacturing-jobs-from-ontario-report/article36610740/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

      We have tons of cheap electricity herein Quebec..glad I dont pay Ontario rates..

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    7. http://torontosun.com/2017/06/22/quebec-now-more-creditworthy-than-ontario/wcm/26d5b8ef-6bed-4275-9477-7f9e2efca3b3

      https://www.plant.ca/general/resurgent-quebec-drawing-attention-us-investors-171168/

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    8. Mr. Sauga here again, c. What I am bitter about is I felt I had to leave my place of birth because the majority are weak and need enemies. They are envious fools who need to pass laws otherwise they'll NEVER catch up to us minorites, especially in the Saguenay, Gaspésie, the Lac St-Jean region and other outlying areas. It's not an old thing. Now the Muslims are being picked on by another so-called "federalist" government who passes a no-niqab law that won't even be enforceable, unless your racist police choose to enforce. Most transit operators are not willing to tell niqab-wearing women to remove. Of course, because the Quebec government has passed racist laws thus emboldening those who don't like Muslims to crack racist remarks and throw rocks and other objects. There is no shortage of country bumpkins in Quebec, especially in the outlying areas were there are few or no minorities. A vote of less than a dozen people in the Quebec City area is sufficient to prevent a Muslim cemetery? Why is a Muslim cemetery such a problem? IT WOULD BE FULL OF DEAD PEOPLE, STUPID! Dead people cause no disturbance. They don't even wear niqabs! Even if it's part of their burial garb, they're six feet under, unless there are retarded sadists who would either exhume the bodies to verify their garb, or just vandalize the cemetery! I've seen that done to small Jewish cemeteries outside, and even within Montreal. Loser state!

      Finally, to address those links you have enclosed. You're right about hydro rates driving business out, but now the dike has become unpopular because she has vastly raised the costs of hydro and gasoline, so she can look forward to being history by the next election. The electorate is fed up, not only with hydro and gasoline, but also the constant partisan fighting she's been having with the Toronto mayor.

      Despite the debt levels, the Greater Toronto Area is still growing like a weed and even through housing prices have cooled down, they're still up over last year, and commercial building is increasing like crazy, too. I'm sure once immigrants, especially non-Francophone ones, will leave when the language nonsense inevitably kicks up again.

      If you think I'm a bitter pill, what is Jean-François Lisée and his band of xenophobic hicks? Loser party, loser leader, loser state! Get used to it! Don't lose sight of this article put out by Mr. Berlach. Giving a guy a ticket for singing yet! Loser police force! Loser state!

      Now that le Club de Hockey Canadien is going to be run by Francophones of whom not enough have the talent to coach and be GMs. It will be a frosty Friday the next time the Habs get close to a cup. There are no new Francophone coaches available, so the loser GM keeps recycling the Francophone coaches who proved the first time what losers they are. Loser GM, loser coaches, losing hockey team, loser state!

      Mr. Berlach previously wrote that of the 17 billionaires in Quebec, only eight are Francophones out of seven million! One in 800,000. Six billionaire Jews out of a population of less than ninety thousand. One in 15,000! 20% of the population, the minorities, make up 40% of the tax base. Francophones: 80% of the population, 60% of the tax base. For every minority in Quebec, they on average contribute two shares of the tax revenues; Francophones on average, 0.75, or ¾ of 1% of a share. Summary: Minorities out contribute Francophones to the tax base by a ratio of 8 to 3! Loser majority, loser racists, loser state! Live with it!

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    9. Well you obviously still havent gotten over leaving your home..its sad that many of you had to leave..I can understand that..but coming on here and throwing the word loser state over and over and then talking about the hockey team is a bit much. Get a grip on it..you have been gone 33 years..let it go..its done and you have moved on and have done well..why still so much anger..I dont get it.

      I think you could say the same across Canada that many of the richest come from first generation immigrants..they come here with nothing and they work very very hard..they often had to start their own businesses to survive. I see it with the young generation in general..children of newly arrived immigrants are pushed much harder than the Canadians because their parents are driven to get their kids out of poverty. Since when is being a billionaire considered the definition of success. Most billionaires are ruthless money driven people who are grossly over rated in my opinion. Many of them got rich by stepping over people and by borderline illegal means. To get to that point you have to be someone who is obsessive about acquiring wealth at all cost..power hungry..insecure. Typically immigrants arrive and are poor and insecure and are driven to show the rest of the country that they are important too..yet it eventually can create monsters..people whose sole objective is to get richer and richer and richer. Look at that disgusting show Dragons Den..cant stand those pompous arrogant Dragons who think they are mini gods tossing crumbs at the entrpreneurs.
      Toronto is a disaster waiting to happen..out of control growth based on pure speculation and greeed..property prices totally out of touch with reality..its a bubble clear and simple and it will pop like all the others and in a few years everyone will be saying why people were so stupid to spend 1 million dollars on a dumpy bungalow and so on.
      I would say you are pretty similar to Jean Francois Lisee but on the other side. If anglophones back in the 1950s and 60s had been a bit more sensitive to the discrimination against the francophone majority then maybe we would have not ended up with the PQ. I know many francophones whose parents had to speak english only at their work here in Quebec even though they were the majority. Did you know that weather forecasts from the government were only available in english until the early 1970s. And even to this day if there is one anglophone and many francophones usually the francophones will be the ones who switch to english to accomodate the one anglophone. So it works both ways..there has always been a total disdain towards francophones and their language and you are a prime example of it when you come on here attacking francophones over and over.

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      Mr. Sauga here, c: Ahhhhh...there it is...your are the definition of the consummate Old Stock Québécois. That's right, spurn those with your vitriol who became successful through the Protestant Work Ethic vs. the loser, despotic Roman Catholic Church who, as the late Mordecai Richler put it, had directed women to bear offspring like sows hence create families living in abject poverty.

      La Revanche des berceaux...what a concept, and your people bought it for 200 years...TWO CENTURIES! Finally, finally, finally, the dumb-dumbs learned they were duped by a false doctrine that was leading the blindly obedient down the garden path to a permanent underclass of pregnant ignoramuses. The garbage taught in those "Catholic schools" was eloquently described by Franco Ontarian Michel Gratton in a book he wrote to Anglophones about the Francophone way of life during that oppressive time. «La Patante» was a micro version of empire building in the Francophone communities, full of usurping, betrayal and backstabbing. Hmmm, who wrote about the evils of blind ambition very recently?

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      So, c., your answer is the vitriolic language and religion laws to punish the successful and reward the loser majority? That is exactly the sign of a weak, jealous, paranoid and insecure tyrannous majority. How backward! It's certainly not the first time the majority of a jurisdiction has exercised tyranny, but that doesn't imply it's right to do so.

      For a change, though, I do support you on some of what you wrote. There are those riddled with brutal, merciless, unshakable and blind ambition who tyrannously exercise corporate greed. Worse yet, there are CEOs, boards of directors and other senior executives who neither own nor built organizations are are downright evil. Walt Disney Corporation does not act like Tinkerbelle or Polyanna. They have/had good, loyal, hard-working employees who are being laid off for the simple reason they are earning too much. The bigwigs are having the departing employees train the very people who are going to take their place. Failure to train cheaper incomers from India and other developing but low wage countries results in revocation of their severance pay and pension benefits. BASTARDS! UNMITIGATED BASTARDS! Of course, their reasons for doing this is to artificially raise profits hence pad their pay packets through bonuses.

      As for your cohorts who had to speak English on the job, yep, and that's the way it goes. 350 million English speakers in North America vs seven million French. A ratio of 50:1.

      As for my bitterness, yes, I am bitter because I was being relegated to a lower class by a society that only did it because they are unsuccessful and can't stand it. I didn't become a corporate empire builder, my families came to Quebec with very little and had to work to build a better life than where they came from, but what is unbearable is Quebec is doing to us what their former tyrants were doing to them, all because I belong to a minority that outclasses the majority 8:3 in paying taxes for maintenance of the majority. Even as the "bad" guys are the "good" guys to the majority. Loser society! Loser state!

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    12. Keep in mind that those 7 million french people are the clear majority in Quebec hence they used their political power to try and protect their language and there is nothing wrong with that. A lot of people around the world have done the same. However I will say that it does bother me that the federal government has been trying to force french on the rest of Canada..that annoys me..it annoys me that there are many government jobs which requite french in areas where there are very few francophones..it annoys me that there is huge over representation of francophnes in the federal, provincial and municipal levels here in quebec and even in many other parts of canada. So they have done well in getting the cushy government jobs.

      But coming on here..ranting loser state like a child..whats the point of that..to me anyone who smears a whole group of people like that is either racist, ignorant or has some anger management issues. If I started saying Ontario is a loser state because your debt is blowing up, your policy on electricity has been a disaster, and also sitting by letting one of the biggest property bubbles in history develop would that be useful? Name calling is childish..I think you need to let go of your past..its over..you are in the promised land Ontario now so whats the problem? Some francophones must have really pissed you off when you were young?

      I dont disagree with your comments on the catholic church..sure there was and is a ton of corruption there and yes their policy of telling people to have a ton of kids was pretty pathetic.

      You go on and on about how much the ethnics pay in income taxes..so why do they do it? If they are so smart and sophisticated why don't they leave like you and moves to low tax areas like Ontario? I mean nobody is pointing a gun at their head to stay? You really want me to feel sorry for billionaires and super rich people in MOntreal who are paying more taxes than elsewhere..sorry but I have zero sympathy for the super rich who in the end never do pay their fair share. I suspect a lot of these people have profited nicely by buying real estate very cheap, tax benefits from the quebec government, cheap electricity and an overall lower cost of living that crazy Toronto and Vancouver.

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    13. Mr. Sauga here, c: Well, we agree on a few things. The ideologue dike premier here in Ontario is bringing the province to the brink, so hopefully voters will remember how much has been wasted on energy projects and the debt levels next spring when we go to the polls. Housing prices here and even worse in Vancouver are making homebuying problematic, esp. for young people graduating from school (or worse, dropping out) and trying to start a life.

      Be thankful that despite the bigoted scorn by Parasite and the housewife Marois didn't take and there are minorities happy to stay where they are, and pay most of the taxes. Thank your lucky stars they didn't leave or that would have had adverse consequences for the Quebec economy.

      I'm not asking you to feel sorry for the super rich...far from it. I too am dissatisfied with what they escape tax-wise. It's not just in Quebec, it's everywhere!

      You missed my point, c. What I was trying to convey was the minorities succeeded BECAUSE they didn't submit to the adverse if not evil doctrines set by the Roman Catholic church. Generation after generation, it was the Old Stock Québécois who were made to be the fools, but once they realized the stupidity of it all, they decided to wipe the egg off their faces with the minorities, and blame the minorities for working hard, bettering their lots in life and becoming the captains of industry while the duped majority was treading in the muck and mire to survive.

      I'm bitter because I was made the scapegoat for events that were not of my doing, and I'm not against those who came to Canada, Quebec in particular, and built their empires. They did the work, and no doubt there was exploitation of the duped Francophones. That being said, MY family didn't exploit anyone! They came with very little, and especially on my mother's side, they built smaller as opposed to big business and had employees, some French speaking who otherwise likely would not have had work during the Depression. They did good, yet I paid for it. THAT is what embitters me!

      As for that language protection thing, that is a crock of you-know-what! The attempt by Lord Durham to assimilate was defeated, and with the mass and social media we have today, trying that now would have never made it two steps towards first base! In Europe there is a sea of languages and the languages haven't dissipated. This thing to protect the French language (Joual, really, since it's not really French) is a misnomer.

      Yiddish is not spoken anymore, or in very limited areas by few people, yet Judaism, with only 15 million people worldwide, still exists, so this "protection" of Joual is a false misnomer. Doesn't hold an ounce of water.

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    14. Well you are sounding more reasoned now and I dont disagree with much that you said. But the nasty tone blasting Quebec as a loser state serves no real purpose. I am not happy about the fact that protection of the french language is an obsession here but on the other hand I can understand why many francophones were pissed off 50 years ago when they were effectively not the masters in their own house. Now that doesn't mean they have managed things well since then..they haven't but the fact that the minority anglophones dominated was a big reason why the french revolted so much here much as in many other former colonies..Zimbabwe, South Africa, Vietnam, and on and on..and sadly many of these countries are suffering more than when the minority elite ruled which is ironic.
      The PQ if they had been smart would have taken a much more moderate stance in 1976 and pushed for french and english on all signs but not french predominant. They could have talked about boosting the amount of french spoken in the workplace without trying to completelt eliminae english. They could have had the best of both worlds..a strong Montreal with a stronger french base but instead they blew all the money and power to Toronto.

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    15. Mr. Sauga here, c.: I've ALWAYS been reasoned. "The PQ if they had been smart WOULD HAVE taken a much more moderate stance". Woulda coulda shoulda, c. No dice! Maybe Lévesque was more moderate, but his cabinet deputy department appointees certainly were not...FAR FROM IT! They were vengeful, vitriolic, decaying bigots. They were consumed by the hatred within, especially the likes of Camille Laurin, Pauline Marois, Jean-François Lisée, Lise Payette, Louise Beaudoin, Denis Lazure among a host of others. Throw the fat one they called «Monsieur» after his rant about «l'argent et la vote éthnique.» That makes Lévesque just as guilty as the rest of them, and I don't think he liked over half of them. He disclosed his disdain for Laurin in Mordecai Richler's book.

      You wrote "...many francophones were pissed off 50 years ago when they were effectively not the masters in their own house." Darn tootin' they weren't...their master was the Roman Catholic Church until after 200 years and at least ten generations finally said ENOUGH! In Michel Gratton's aforementioned book, he wrote how the neighbourhood priests would come knocking on the doors each and every Friday to ensure there was no meat being cooked in the kitchen, and with my mother being from small town Quebec saw how the church would butt into family business to make sure the mamas had bellies (i.e., check on the baby situation). It was the CHURCH who were their masters, not the «maudit anglais, juifs, etc.» yet the Old Stock constantly picks on the minorities because they DON'T DARE blame les pères, curés, monsignieurs and of course, la Pape. That cross and the crucified Jésus above the speaker's chair is the sacred cow! So much for separation of church and state in Quebec!

      "The PQ IF they had been smart would have taken a much more moderate stance..." All I did was copy and paste the three things you wrote. I capitalized the word "IF" because that "IF" is the operative conjunction. The PQ organization from the premier down to the lowliest voter were not "smart". They were vindictive, many of them hateful incarnates, consumed and hateful to the core of their being.

      English was referred to by a former cabinet minister as "foreign"! Excuse me? Quebec, like it or not, is still part of Canada, and English is one of two OFFICIAL languages in Canada.

      As stated previously, Mr. Complicated, my anger stems from the fact my family came to Quebec with what they could carry that was not confiscated by despots of their former lands to do good for themselves and the greater good, provide jobs for locals, but instead of being thanked, I, as a descendant of those who did good, was instead labeled as a wrongdoer all because I am English mother tongued. I have NO English blood circulating through my body, yet I'm associatd with «argent et la vote éthnique» and that to no end makes me hot under the collar. What also bothers me to no end is nobody in the federal government defends the minorities and gives Quebec endless federal money that is greater than what the taxpayers put in. That, Mr. C., is the definition of a loser state! The endless control of Quebec by organized crime and colossally corrupt public servants, be they politicians or the police, or others on the public payroll, completes the definition of a loser state. Simple as that. Thank you for paying attention and getting what I've been writing right!

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    16. Oh boy..I think you are reading too much into my comments. Ontario could just as easily be referred to as a loser state given all the bad decisions they have made..how about the supposedly great USA that makes dumb decision after another..the latest electing a moron like Trump. A lot of states are corrupt and make bad decisions and are horrible fiscal managers.
      I still find it sad that after decades you still hold such a grudge against Quebec..it sounds like you and your family still did better by moving to Canada and Quebec than staying in whatever worse "loser state" that your family lived in before. I get a bit tired of listeninig to immigrants who go on and on about how they came here with nothing and built themselves up and then feel that Canada somehow owes them something. It some sort of inferiority complex..immigrants always want to prove to somebody how successful they are but its always about the money in the end. Defining success solely based on how much money and wealth you acquired is pretty sad in my opinion and yet it seems most immigrants fall into this trap.

      I think its high time you knock the big chip off your shoulder and move on. There is no point blasting your former home over and over because of what happened to you 40 years ago. You and your family have done well so whats the problem? I hope you attack your parents former homeland in europe as much as you attack Quebec. The problem with you is you see everything in black and white..anything about Quebec is black and everything elsehwere is white. There are some pretty good things happening in Quebec now that are not happening in the rest of Canada and some credit has to go to the majority francophone leaders. Not all francophones are losers as you imply and not all immigrants are winners..believe me on that one.

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    17. Hi again, c. You-know-who here. I just wrote a bunch of stuff and somehow deleted it unintentionally, so I'll do an abridged rewrite.

      I don't care much for Trump myself, but he was elected fair and square under American electoral laws, you and I didn't have a vote, so it's a non-starter.

      Here in Ontario, this government has been sloppy and has cost us a fortune. With any luck, the Dike and her cast of idiots will be history next year. So much for your feeble political attempt to deflect shortcomings of the Loser State onto other jurisdictions.

      My grandfather started the family enterprise and his eldest son, my uncle, was suddenly thrust into it at the height of the Great Depression when my grandfather died. The enterprise was pledged to he hilt with debt, but my uncle turned it all around. In tribute to what he did for the small Quebec town, eternal gratitude has been expressed by naming a street after him.

      The only thing I believe I along with mine and the minorities in Quebec at large are owed is to be treated with equal respect and dignity as the majority. As for where my ancestors came from, I have little respect for those countries. What is especially sad is my ascendants came to Quebec in part with the hope of being treated respectfully and with the dignity like those who came earlier.

      You probably read and watched the French media as opposed to the English. Life in the French media was all hunky dory while the English media disclosed the truth. G-d-like civil servants who decided through language testing which kids would get to go to English vs French schools. Very often kids who made one mistake on their test were denied the right to go to English school. Other jurisdictions didn't pass into law a cavalcade of language laws, and attempt to pass identity laws, Bills 14 and 104 that tightened access to English schools and Bill 40 that would have enabled language police unannounced to come into one's business, even home, in search of "illegal English" whatever that is. Language police would harass businesses if there was one word of English on a sign, menu, business card, etc. Lest we forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKOGgYaqwhg followed by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iki-pwrCpE8 A classic!

      c, don't compare other jurisdictions to the Loser State. Take the shame on you and yours!

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    18. Well again it sounds like you have done well in life along with your family so not sure why you feel so slighted. On the other hand if one movers to a jurisdiction where 80 percent of the people speak one language and you do not learn the language then at some point life will become difficult. Maybe you do speak french well..I dont know..but in any case its not surprising that the majority in Quebec want to be served in their language which often was not the case 50 years ago especially in Montreal.
      The language police are disgraceful..no debate there..its pretty silly but perhaps if the english minority made a bit of effort to learn french then bill 101 would not have come into place. I know people who grew up in Montreal who literally dont know more than a few words of french..how can that be? How can you live in a place and not learn the main language..its pretty sad and disrespectful. But its insensitivity like this that leads to over reactions which result in Bill 101 and so on..the francophones got fed up being second classin their own land. Yes they over reacted but thats what happens when people feel repressed..



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    19. There is merit in some of your points. I worked in retail when the language laws were coming, and it took time to get down the French terminology and get more fluid in my answers. There are still breaks in my French, but I spoke it everyday on the phones, and occasionally answering e-mails. I'm not sorry I did, but I didn't like the way the enforcement was way overzealous by the so-called language police.

      You're right insofar as English speakers, especially in the Montreal area, could get by without French. Even today some jobs barely require French, although, of course, it's better to be able to speak it. There are plenty of English TV stations, radio stations, newspapers and periodicals, movies, etc. that enable those who do not, cannot, or don't want to speak French can get by, but it does create a ghetto to do that.

      One thing for sure, many bilingual Francophones I encountered over the years have admitted that English is easier to speak than French. In terms of verbs, only the third person singular is different from all the rest, but in all fairness, there are plenty of exceptions in English, whereas there are plenty of tenses in French and having to remember the gender that goes with the nouns--ugh! It has been said, too, that English is one of the languages easiest tho learn to be spoken badly!!

      We obviously will never agree on Quebec, but that will over time be for future generations to figure out. One thing is for sure: The so-called protection of the French language was never really necessary as it has been spoken for about a half millennium, it has never disappeared and even if the French speaking population was cut in half overnight, French would still not disappear as long as there is a will among those who speak French to keep on doing so.

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  4. Dont believe me..look at this..

    http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/ontario/
    http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/quebec/

    What I find really pathetic is how Ontario under boom times in real estate still is adding massively to their debt..wait until the real estate bubble crashes in Toronto then watch the Ontario debt skyrocket..

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  5. Complicated, living in Toronto, I'm inclined to agree with you. We've been extremely fortunate that housing, and construction in general, has been strong forever, but I suspect if we ever have a sharp downturn in those areas, Ontario would have a smoking black crater where our budget used to be. As an aside to Mr.Sauga, I loathe Orville Wynn-enbacher and her clown-car riding Liberals but I don't see that her sexual orientation has anything to do with her pathetic performance as Premier.

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    1. Mr. Sauga Here. You're right about the loser, Wynne. She's an ideologue that will bankrupt ua about as much as Quebec if she's voted in again. With the crazy hikes in hydro rates and wasted money on project cancellations and hydro towers that lead to nowhere, we can only hope the dumbasses who voted that ideologue in don't do so again.

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